desi3933
05-11 05:16 PM
we are talking about inclusion logic here. Not the exclusion logic.
I do see in sec 203 how some one becomes eligible for "eb quota". I dont see ebdependents there. I see only eb primary.
I am sorry, I am not interested to carry this debate forward for the fun of debating. I strongly urge you to read sec 203. Thanks for understanding.
Read for yourself.
INA 203(d) Treatment of family members
A spouse or child as defined in subparagraph (A), (B), (C), (D), or (E) of section 1101(b)(1) of this title shall, if not otherwise entitled to an immigrant status and the immediate issuance of a visa under subsection (a), (b), or (c) of this section, be entitled to the same status, and the same order of consideration provided in the respective subsection, if accompanying or following to join, the spouse or parent.
This means that if primary beneficiary is using visa number from EB(2) classification then dependent(s) will also be using same classification as primary beneficiary (i.e. EB(2) in this example).
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I do see in sec 203 how some one becomes eligible for "eb quota". I dont see ebdependents there. I see only eb primary.
I am sorry, I am not interested to carry this debate forward for the fun of debating. I strongly urge you to read sec 203. Thanks for understanding.
Read for yourself.
INA 203(d) Treatment of family members
A spouse or child as defined in subparagraph (A), (B), (C), (D), or (E) of section 1101(b)(1) of this title shall, if not otherwise entitled to an immigrant status and the immediate issuance of a visa under subsection (a), (b), or (c) of this section, be entitled to the same status, and the same order of consideration provided in the respective subsection, if accompanying or following to join, the spouse or parent.
This means that if primary beneficiary is using visa number from EB(2) classification then dependent(s) will also be using same classification as primary beneficiary (i.e. EB(2) in this example).
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TheOmbudsman
10-25 11:24 AM
As far as I know there is no such arranged compromise. In my personal opinion, the tendency is that the Republicans will attempt to stall everything they can and "do the same" to Dems. Here is an expert opinion. I am sorry if that doesn't sound optmistic.
From Ed Rollins, former White House policy director:
ED ROLLINS: My sense today is we've got to do something short-term to stop the problem. But as we sit here today, my feeling is that no matter what happens in this election, there's not going to be big enough margins on either side to move the Congress in any way, shape or form to solve these critical problems.
And I would hope that the two parties do something they haven't been able do for the last dozen years, and that's sit down and say, all right, neither of us can move or address any of these issues. And why can't we come together and why can't we face up to some of these very significant issues, like Social Security, like education, like health care and come up with a compromise?
Because Democrats aren't going to have enough votes, even if they win back the Congress, and Republicans certainly aren't going to have enough votes if they win the Congress. And we can't have another two years or four years of this chaos.
If Democrats win the House (which they most probably will - maybe with a small majority): Would then there be a Compromise on the CIR which the Republicans didnt even want to talk about ?
Someone in this thread pointed out that in the lame duck session is held with the current members, that would mean we wouldnt have a compromise in the lame duck session.
Then the new Congress would come in and the Bills would have to be passed in the Senate all over again, right? ( Just asking as I dont know the whole process).
From Ed Rollins, former White House policy director:
ED ROLLINS: My sense today is we've got to do something short-term to stop the problem. But as we sit here today, my feeling is that no matter what happens in this election, there's not going to be big enough margins on either side to move the Congress in any way, shape or form to solve these critical problems.
And I would hope that the two parties do something they haven't been able do for the last dozen years, and that's sit down and say, all right, neither of us can move or address any of these issues. And why can't we come together and why can't we face up to some of these very significant issues, like Social Security, like education, like health care and come up with a compromise?
Because Democrats aren't going to have enough votes, even if they win back the Congress, and Republicans certainly aren't going to have enough votes if they win the Congress. And we can't have another two years or four years of this chaos.
If Democrats win the House (which they most probably will - maybe with a small majority): Would then there be a Compromise on the CIR which the Republicans didnt even want to talk about ?
Someone in this thread pointed out that in the lame duck session is held with the current members, that would mean we wouldnt have a compromise in the lame duck session.
Then the new Congress would come in and the Bills would have to be passed in the Senate all over again, right? ( Just asking as I dont know the whole process).
GC08
09-14 07:34 PM
As of September 14, 2007, USCIS has completed data entry and issued receipt notices for applications and petitions received on or before the dates indicated:
California Service Center
Form Number Date Received
I-130 8/08/2007
N-400 7/26/2007
All Other Forms 9/06/2007
Nebraska Service Center
Form Number Date Received
I-131 7/29/2007
I-140 7/29/2007
I-485 Employment
Based 7/29/2007
I-765 7/29/2007
N-400 7/26/2007
All Other Forms 8/05/2007
Texas Service Center
Form Number Date Received
I-131 7/19/2007
I-140 8/13/2007
I-140 concurrently filed
with I-485 7/19/2007
I-485 Employment
Based 7/19/2007
I-765 7/19/2007
N-400 7/16/2007
All Other Forms 9/11/2007
Vermont Service Center
Form Number Date Received
I-130 7/29/2007
N-400 7/25/2007
All Other Forms 9/4/2007
USCIS Lockbox
Form Number Date Received
I-485 Family Based 8/30/2007
TPS 8/26/2007
TEXAS center is catching up!!!!:D
If these data are true, how come a lot of July filers still have not got their receipts?
California Service Center
Form Number Date Received
I-130 8/08/2007
N-400 7/26/2007
All Other Forms 9/06/2007
Nebraska Service Center
Form Number Date Received
I-131 7/29/2007
I-140 7/29/2007
I-485 Employment
Based 7/29/2007
I-765 7/29/2007
N-400 7/26/2007
All Other Forms 8/05/2007
Texas Service Center
Form Number Date Received
I-131 7/19/2007
I-140 8/13/2007
I-140 concurrently filed
with I-485 7/19/2007
I-485 Employment
Based 7/19/2007
I-765 7/19/2007
N-400 7/16/2007
All Other Forms 9/11/2007
Vermont Service Center
Form Number Date Received
I-130 7/29/2007
N-400 7/25/2007
All Other Forms 9/4/2007
USCIS Lockbox
Form Number Date Received
I-485 Family Based 8/30/2007
TPS 8/26/2007
TEXAS center is catching up!!!!:D
If these data are true, how come a lot of July filers still have not got their receipts?
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manderson
10-20 02:34 PM
If there's a recession (even with a soft landing) in 2007, as many economists and Wall Street people are saying, and we don't get SKIL Act through congress during lame-duck session -- what will it mean for us? Will business lobbies still have a strong case to sell to lawmakers amid a recession?
I am not trying to bring everybody down. Just weighting my options in case Plan A (i.e. SKILL Act) doesn't work. This looks like an analysis thread and a good place to play the devil's advocate...
I am not trying to bring everybody down. Just weighting my options in case Plan A (i.e. SKILL Act) doesn't work. This looks like an analysis thread and a good place to play the devil's advocate...
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willwin
07-28 10:54 AM
This thread was opened for working on Action Item. EB2-I community is giving all stupid reasons to divert us from our Action Item. Please stay focused and lets work on Action Items.
We already sent petition to support those three bills. What else shall we do now. We are running out of time and only few days left before Congress goes on recess (or whatever the term is). WE MUST ACT NOW.
Thanks.
Send flowers to DOS/USCIS thanking them for holding us at 2001 and thank them in advance for having decided to hold us at 2001 in 2009.
May be guys in 2001 and 2002 can send them something bigger/better - send them tree saplings.May be you guys will get your GC when those trees yield.
We already sent petition to support those three bills. What else shall we do now. We are running out of time and only few days left before Congress goes on recess (or whatever the term is). WE MUST ACT NOW.
Thanks.
Send flowers to DOS/USCIS thanking them for holding us at 2001 and thank them in advance for having decided to hold us at 2001 in 2009.
May be guys in 2001 and 2002 can send them something bigger/better - send them tree saplings.May be you guys will get your GC when those trees yield.
kataria
11-19 01:55 PM
Email to House Rep and Snail Mail to Senator. Done for both me and spouse.
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07-19 08:10 PM
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desi3933
01-30 03:08 PM
Have a question. My current I-94 is valid till May 2009(entered on AP last time). What happens after May2009? Do I need to get another I-94 and how?
No.
It is customary to put one year expiration for I-94 for AP entry. It does not mean much.
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US Citizen of Indian Origin
No.
It is customary to put one year expiration for I-94 for AP entry. It does not mean much.
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Not a legal advice.
US Citizen of Indian Origin
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ychuck
05-02 11:45 AM
Is there any thing on EB numbers and contry limit?
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Sachin_Stock
09-14 01:08 PM
I think IV should make it mandatory for $25/monthly charge for all the folks.
At least we can get rid of the dual-nature of 'helping you, only a little bit' sort of tendency.
However, there should total transparency once people pay. I see some guys are frustrated for lack of information despite them being donors.
At least we can get rid of the dual-nature of 'helping you, only a little bit' sort of tendency.
However, there should total transparency once people pay. I see some guys are frustrated for lack of information despite them being donors.
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Karthik Thambidurai
07-13 07:57 AM
NPR news coverage on July 2007 visa bulletin
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=11945381
:)
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=11945381
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Ram_C
11-21 12:02 PM
Dear Mehul,
I have no words to express my feelings after reading your post.
My heart goes out to you and your family, may God give you and your family the courage and strength to overcome this situation.
Do not lose your hope, Miracles do happen.
God bless you and your family.
-Ram.
I have no words to express my feelings after reading your post.
My heart goes out to you and your family, may God give you and your family the courage and strength to overcome this situation.
Do not lose your hope, Miracles do happen.
God bless you and your family.
-Ram.
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hebron
07-19 08:08 PM
I am starting this new thread to discuss about EB visas spillover usage based on oldest priority date irrespective of category/country. Currently the spillover happens vertically(a top down approach) from EB1 -> EB2 -> EB3...etc. Instead it should be first used on cases with oldest priority date. This will not only give a good move to clear the backlog but will also be a fair rule for those who are patiently waiting in queue for a long time. I wrote my concern about this to my local congressman. I also request each one of you, who is impacted by this, or who is interested to help us out, to kindly contact your local congressman/woman to express your concern. In turn they can contact USCIS to implement this fair rule to help us all out.
I can't understand why Sanhari's suggestion would rile up EB2 folks. All he suggested was to use the EB spillover visas for oldest cases irrespective of EB category and country.
Sanhari - Are you sure that this is a USCIS decision? Can USCIS change the way the do the spillover without legislation change?
Folks, There is a another thread on here that says IV is neither against EB3 nor for EB2. If that's really the case why would Sanhari's suggestion not find favor? If IV seriously want to do something for the backlog, Sanhari's suggestion should be taken up.
I anticipate and welcome reds, greens, blues for this post :)
I can't understand why Sanhari's suggestion would rile up EB2 folks. All he suggested was to use the EB spillover visas for oldest cases irrespective of EB category and country.
Sanhari - Are you sure that this is a USCIS decision? Can USCIS change the way the do the spillover without legislation change?
Folks, There is a another thread on here that says IV is neither against EB3 nor for EB2. If that's really the case why would Sanhari's suggestion not find favor? If IV seriously want to do something for the backlog, Sanhari's suggestion should be taken up.
I anticipate and welcome reds, greens, blues for this post :)
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a2006
05-02 01:57 PM
The derivative files using primary's PD. read all posts in this thread, the I485 form and INA. it is clearly in the law.
This thread is discussing about quota. not PD.
In essence none will be affected ( ofcourse EBdependents and existing FB2A may get delayed slightly , that is ok)
Ok, I am still trying to figure out what you said about non retrogressed countries/EB1. A person in EB1 files for labor and gets approved in a year. Suppose he has a priority date of 08, his dependents will have to wait for at least 4 years according to the current bulletin for Family 2A. Am I missing something here?
This thread is discussing about quota. not PD.
In essence none will be affected ( ofcourse EBdependents and existing FB2A may get delayed slightly , that is ok)
Ok, I am still trying to figure out what you said about non retrogressed countries/EB1. A person in EB1 files for labor and gets approved in a year. Suppose he has a priority date of 08, his dependents will have to wait for at least 4 years according to the current bulletin for Family 2A. Am I missing something here?
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roseball
04-21 07:08 PM
Guys,
I knew Mehul and his family. They migrated to Sweden late January and Mehul passed away peacefully in his sleep on March 2, 2008
Admins, please close/archive this thread. It's painful
This is heart-breaking.....May god give courage to his family during these difficult times and RIP Mehul....
I knew Mehul and his family. They migrated to Sweden late January and Mehul passed away peacefully in his sleep on March 2, 2008
Admins, please close/archive this thread. It's painful
This is heart-breaking.....May god give courage to his family during these difficult times and RIP Mehul....
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sathishav
02-22 10:02 AM
@india_usa
100% correct. I guess its human. If you did not file for 485 in Jul 07, people want to file when PD is not current. For people who filed and are waiting, want the backlog cleared. People who have GC are "worried" about getting citizenship :). People who just came in, are worried about they PERM/140 approvals.
@peacocklover
GC is all about luck. They should cancel the entire GC process and make it a "lottery" as that is what it is.
I think the substituters were the smart ones (though a few of them were burned during the process). I guess, people like you and I choose to follow the safe route.
your PD says its 2006. I know people with PD in 2004 or 2005 and their Labor/PERM applicaiton was not approved before the July 07 floodgate. They are still waiting and I do feel sorry for them.
100% correct. I guess its human. If you did not file for 485 in Jul 07, people want to file when PD is not current. For people who filed and are waiting, want the backlog cleared. People who have GC are "worried" about getting citizenship :). People who just came in, are worried about they PERM/140 approvals.
@peacocklover
GC is all about luck. They should cancel the entire GC process and make it a "lottery" as that is what it is.
I think the substituters were the smart ones (though a few of them were burned during the process). I guess, people like you and I choose to follow the safe route.
your PD says its 2006. I know people with PD in 2004 or 2005 and their Labor/PERM applicaiton was not approved before the July 07 floodgate. They are still waiting and I do feel sorry for them.
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pret_23
01-30 05:04 PM
And none of us should even complain when millions of illegals are suddenly made legal by the Government and they jump the line in front of us for no fault of ours and there are EB3s still waiting from 2001. The illegals have taken a risk right by jumping across the border and staying here illegally???
:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Yes its tough but trust me if we dont have illegals in america nobody would have even bothered abt CIR.And, in the current market situation they would have reduced H1B quota also....
:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Yes its tough but trust me if we dont have illegals in america nobody would have even bothered abt CIR.And, in the current market situation they would have reduced H1B quota also....
qplearn
12-12 07:42 AM
I have mentioned IV to a some Indians. They have no interest. Some of them are not bothered about retrogression. They exepect the GC to fall in their lap while they are sipping tea and eating samosa.
Also, it is hard to trust a mainly Indian set up. The Indian contracting companies have set a very shameless level. I told my friends that IV appears different but it is hard to change your opinion when you see something else 10 times a day.
I apolozie to the sensitive Indians if I this is breaking news. But this is the general feeling and a reason for hate in the blogs: where there is smoke there is fire. It is embarassing.
I agree completely. Sometimes you pay the price for unethical and arrogant natives from your motherland. I know of someone who thinks he is smarter than people of any other nationality.
But I like your nickname. I wear that as a badge of honor. :)
Also, it is hard to trust a mainly Indian set up. The Indian contracting companies have set a very shameless level. I told my friends that IV appears different but it is hard to change your opinion when you see something else 10 times a day.
I apolozie to the sensitive Indians if I this is breaking news. But this is the general feeling and a reason for hate in the blogs: where there is smoke there is fire. It is embarassing.
I agree completely. Sometimes you pay the price for unethical and arrogant natives from your motherland. I know of someone who thinks he is smarter than people of any other nationality.
But I like your nickname. I wear that as a badge of honor. :)
Santosh_gc
06-26 09:44 PM
I will ignore your familiarity in calling me your "buddy". Find something constructive to say in regards to our IV goals instead of attacking. To begin with, this is not the place for me to explain to you the details of difference between Purchasing Power Parity (PPP) GDP (that you quote) and the market exchange rate GDP which I quoted. But since you raised the subject, PPP GDP is adjusted to accomodate for different inflation and consumption rates in different countries. Without the PPT adjustment, India's GDP is equal to Mexico's, even though India has 11 times the population of Mexico. The reason India comes in 4th with the PPP adjustment in the world is because the ruppee is undervalued and Indians have a purchasing power that is 4 times smaller than Mexicans. So, to humor you and use your method of calculation, the Per Capita GDP (PPP) Of India is $3,344 in 2006 and Mexico's is $12,886. "Where are all the Mexican doctores, computer scientists, economists and professors?" you ask. The answer is: They are IN MEXICO making huge salaries, when the Indian ones have to come here because their salaries in India don't give them enough money to eat. Why aren't all the construction workers and lawn workers in the U.S. Indian? Because they cannot affor the airfare. The Mexicans just walk accross the border. Any you know what? All those Indian Professors at Harvard etc are teaching class to all those rich Mexican kids. Get your facts straight before you confront me and make fun of my MBA (which I got in the U.S. incidentally, not Mexico, but if I had wanted I could have gotten a top 20 MBA back home). I just recated to people's racist attacks here. So now, if you have anything to contribute to our IV common cause, welcome! If all you are about is attacking other forum members then please leave and do not come back. Thanks.
Jamie:
I had decided not to post anyhting about this illegal immigrant/racism thing. But cant help making one comment. You called others racist. But I wonder if you are doing the same by trying to show using numbers etc. how Mexicans are better than Indians. Would that not be racism? Its strange how we are blind to our own biases.
Moderator, sorry I broke my promise. But this is the last I will say on this.
Anyway, moving forward...It will be nice to make a list of desirable points in a bill that is independent of any cause for illegal immigrants. I will start with two points. You can add more if you like. If there is enough momentum and support for these points, then in a truly democratic environment, we may want to modify the core IV goals to reflect that (Ideally I would prefer that there be a vote for what should be the core goals...after all most people here have contributed something towards the cause...and only those who have contributed should be allowed to vote...no free lunch).
1. Allow people to file for 485 and get EAD even if visa numbers are not available
2. Allow EAD to be FULLY portable without restrictons (i.e., irrespective of job description or job title or job location or salary).
The above two dont ask for sweeping changes in immigration laws such as increase visa numbers etc. etc. and are easy for the average American person to understand. And so can hopefuly be passed easily.
With the above two passed, I dont think many people will complain if it takes another 5 years to get their GC. Agree?
By the way, I have got my EAD card and my PD is also current. So the above two goals will be redundant for me. My story is that I am stuck in FBI namecheck. But the moderators have already indicated that it cant be one of the core goals. So I would not list that even if I would like that to be one of the core goals.
Santosh
Jamie:
I had decided not to post anyhting about this illegal immigrant/racism thing. But cant help making one comment. You called others racist. But I wonder if you are doing the same by trying to show using numbers etc. how Mexicans are better than Indians. Would that not be racism? Its strange how we are blind to our own biases.
Moderator, sorry I broke my promise. But this is the last I will say on this.
Anyway, moving forward...It will be nice to make a list of desirable points in a bill that is independent of any cause for illegal immigrants. I will start with two points. You can add more if you like. If there is enough momentum and support for these points, then in a truly democratic environment, we may want to modify the core IV goals to reflect that (Ideally I would prefer that there be a vote for what should be the core goals...after all most people here have contributed something towards the cause...and only those who have contributed should be allowed to vote...no free lunch).
1. Allow people to file for 485 and get EAD even if visa numbers are not available
2. Allow EAD to be FULLY portable without restrictons (i.e., irrespective of job description or job title or job location or salary).
The above two dont ask for sweeping changes in immigration laws such as increase visa numbers etc. etc. and are easy for the average American person to understand. And so can hopefuly be passed easily.
With the above two passed, I dont think many people will complain if it takes another 5 years to get their GC. Agree?
By the way, I have got my EAD card and my PD is also current. So the above two goals will be redundant for me. My story is that I am stuck in FBI namecheck. But the moderators have already indicated that it cant be one of the core goals. So I would not list that even if I would like that to be one of the core goals.
Santosh
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